Losing
Ellie Greenwich this week was a personal loss. Not like her family who are deeply
grieving or her friends who knew her and worked with her. To me she was a new
friend who had only known me for a few weeks….and for an old music historian
from the 70s to be friends with an icon of pop music in the 60s was
well….special.
It is the
loss of what a developing friendship can bring that is sad. And she loved The
Four Seasons and it would have been good to capture some of her stories behind
the music: and to just get to know her.
It might
seem unusual for fans of the Four Seasons to see a link with Ellie Greenwich
and the group but it is said she contributed to the group’s tracks and we know
she was a close friend of Bob Crewe. Certainly Bob Crewe and former Four Season
Jerry Corbetta helped produce her Broadway musical ‘Leader Of The Pack’ in the
1980s. But Ellie was a 60s music icon as much as the Four Seasons.
Our current research on Jean
Thomas’s session logs in 1966 are revealing the sessions with Neil that would
shape his career . Neil said in a statement.. “Ellie Greenwich was one of the
most important people in my career, she discovered me as a down-and-out
songwriter.”
She also
did the back-up work with Jean Thomas for Connie Francis….Andy Kim and for Bob
Crewe on the Leslie Gore productions as well as many others as Jean’s session
logs show. She also produced and sang on some of the Ronettes later sessions.
For an example of her production and backing work listen to the Tony Pass
tracks that Ellie did with husband Jeff Barry at Jean Thomas’s blog post ‘Out
Of The Closet – Part1
But it
was her earlier work in 1963 that was the most important…the L.A. Times again..
Greenwich has said that the title phrase of "Da Doo Ron Ron" was
never intended to be part of the song; it was improvised as a nonsensical space
filler until she and Barry could come up with a real line to follow the tune's opening lyric:
"I met him on a Monday and my heart stood still."
"We got all the rest of the words
and music together, but we couldn't find anything for this bit," she said
in 2005. "Believe me, it doesn't mean a thing." On the other hand, when
she and Barry wrote "There she goes just a walkin' down the street"
to start another song, she responded with what she imagined a young girl
skipping down a street would sing: "Do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do."
"Do Wah Diddy Diddy" became a No. 1 hit in 1965 for the British group
Manfred Mann”
When my marriage fell apart and my style dropped out of fashion, it seemed
there wasn't anything left," she told an Australian newspaper in 2005.
“It's easy to say I had plenty left, but
that's not how it seems when you're there."
Jean
Thomas remembers Ellie with great fondness.” I will miss her a great
deal. We all will!!!!” I feel so sad!!!! But I'm so happy
Ellie, Mikie and I had that long, long lunch not too long ago. The three
of us were looking forward to the next one.”
“Ellie was such a talent. Alongside Carol King she is arguably one of
the most important female writers, producers, performers in New York
And as a result of our
work with Jean and the interest of others she was less reclusive recently and
contacted me about our research. A few weeks ago, when I wrote her on Facebook
she said ….”Thanks for the heartwarming
compliments. Jean and I have been out of touch for so long and we are just
updating our friendship. I speak to Bob Crewe regularly and he is doing just
fine. Hopefully someday I will get a chance to say hello to you in person.…. I
find it amazing there is so much stuff out there with things I sang on, clapped
on, ate on, etc. It would be great if
you put up something for ‘Goodnight Goodnight’ . That was one of my favorite
songs. I wrote ‘Goodnight, Goodnight’ with Bob Crewe around 1966/67. It was on
the b-side of I Want You To Be My Baby. We were kind of hoping for a possible
two sided success but no such luck. It's still one of my favorite songs.”
Unfortunately I didn’t manage it in time or to
ask her about how she helped out on Four Seasons records. But now here it is …..thanks
to Casey and our other researchers for their help with what has become our tribute….
I don't
think there is a female producer/writer from the 60s who I admire more. Her
work with Jean and Mikie remain for me the forgotten legacy of her 60s career
and as we complete Jean’s bios we will reveal more about this 60s ‘harmony
heroine’
For more
on how Ellie, Jean and Mikie (Harris) became one of the most distinct back-up sounds of the
mid 60s check out Pages 5 to 7
of Jean’s bio notes Part 2
Further
appreciations can
be found in the L. A Times and Paul
Levinson’s recollections feature a Performance with Jean Thomas in the
Definitive Rock Chorale.
Perhaps ‘Goodnight, Goodnight’ is a fitting epitaph but because she was such a good writer I would still love to hear the unreleased Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons track she wrote with Bob Crewe and Steve Tudanger (ex ‘Four-Evers’) in 1973 ‘Be My Lover, Be My Friend’ which is lying unheard in the Motown Vaults. It never surfaced in her lifetime and it may never in ours! But most of all I’ll miss my new Facebook friend and the fun we might have had with stories of music making to share with her fans!!
Ken
Charmer
Check Out our previous post re Bob Crewe's Girl's
it is said she contributed to the group’s tracks and we know she was a close friend of Bob Crewe. Certainly Bob Crewe and former Four Season Jerry Corbetta helped produce her Broadway musical ‘Leader Of The Pack’ in the 1980s. But Ellie was a 60s music icon as much as the Four Seasons.
Posted by: True Religion Outlet | March 29, 2011 at 03:14 AM
I will now think of Ellie everytime I hear the line "She's got the way to move me" on Frankie's "Emily".
Apparently she came up with this line for Neil Diamond's "Cherry, Cherry"
Posted by: Ray Ricci | September 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM